Monday, August 07, 2006

Proving the Existence of God?

The following is a comment from Huffington Post. The discussion was about, among other things, the existence of God. Several skeptics were doing the usual needling. Then this appeared and seemed to cry out to be shared. Many thanks to the person who wrote it!

I do believe in God however, your statement that the "burden of proof" is on me for believing God exists is indeed your own "straw man" argument. I have no "burden" when it comes to what I choose to believe. I don't attempt to change people's belief system through circular arguments which can never be answered with certainty. For me the evidence of a caring "creator", or "life-force" or "God" is everywhere. For others, maybe they need more definitive "proof" in their own lives, maybe these are the people who can't see anything they can't put their hands on; who can't put their hands on what they can't see. For me, the Bible isn't representative of a Book which should be viewed as a "text book of literal history". It is filled with parables, stories of inspiration as well reflecting the societies and culture of the times. Whether people except it for the word of God or not is entirely up to them. I do believe it is the word of God, but......if you don't, so be it.

What gets me is these people who question if Jesus ever existed. All you need to do is look at the historical writings of the Roman Empire to find documentation of a person named "Jesus" being sentenced to death coinciding with the Biblical account. If the Bibles account is "make believe" so must be the account of the Roman Empire.

I forget who wrote the following little "story", prominent physicists whose name escapes me but, I have to agree with the sentiment.

"There was a time when I used to visit the Japanese Tea Garden in San Francisco. I would spend hours fascinated by the carp, which lived in a very shallow pond just inches beneath the lily pads, just beneath my fingers, totally oblivious to the universe above them. I would ask myself a question only a human child could ask: What would it be like to be a carp?

What a strange world it would be! I imagined that the pond would be an entire universe, one that is two-dimensional in space. The carp would only be able to swim forwards and backwards, and left and right. I imagined that the concept of "up"--beyond the lily pads--would be totally alien to them. Any carp scientist daring to talk about a third dimension "above" the pond--would immediately be labeled a crank.

I wondered what would happen if I could reach down and grab a carp scientist and lift it up out of the "pond". I thought, what a wondrous story that scientist would tell the others! The carp would babble on about unbelievable new laws of physics: beings who could move without fins; beings who could breathe without gills; beings who could emit sounds without bubbles.

I then wondered: How would a carp scientist know about my existence? One day it rained, and I saw the rain drops forming gentle ripples on the surface of the pond. Then I understood.

The carp could see rippling shadows on the surface of the pond. The third dimension would be invisible to them, but vibrations in the third dimensions would be clearly visible. These ripples might even be felt by the carp, who would invent a silly concept to describe this, called "force." They might even give these "forces" cute names, such as light and gravity. I would laugh at them, because, of course, I know there is no "force" at all, just the rippling of the water.

I'm here to say, you are the carp, swimming in your tiny pond, blissfully unaware of invisible, unseen universes hovering just above you. You'll spend your whole life in three spatial dimensions; confident that what you can see with your telescopes is all there is, ignorant of the vast possibilities. Although the higher dimensions are invisible, their "ripples" can clearly be seen and felt. You call these ripples gravity and light."

By: ThePacifier on August 07, 2006 at 11:11am



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/08/05/filmmaker-james-cameron-f_n_26613.html?p=7#comments

7 comments:

C R Mountjoy - GDF said...

Wasn't this nation founded by Religious Nuts with guns?

Or did I just read that some place?

Mort Snerd said...

Hmmm... You've got a point! ;)

D.R. Cootey said...

NIce sentiment. Thanks for finding and reposting that.

Anonymous said...

Mort: Thanks for turning me on to this blog. Good Lord willing I'll be back for some more chatting and whatever.

Mort Snerd said...

Cool. Thanks guys!

Anonymous said...

mort, Jesus said that if a person seeks with all their heart they will find! believe it of not folks, but if hell does exist then realising that Jesus was right after we die, might be to late.

Mort Snerd said...

Well said, Robert. Thankfully there's a merciful plan for those who've died without an opportunity to learn and choose. The rest of us better act while we're able.

I imagine there's lots of regrets on the other side. "If only I had...", "What if...". Personally, I'd like to cross that threshold with a smile and a sense of awe and wonder.

Peace!